Thursday, September 28, 2006

Wake up

Fafblog July 2004:

It's so easy to kind of sweep it all under your brain an think "Well theres nothin more to be said an nothin more to think about it" cause let's face it nobody wants to think about their government participating in horror.

An right now the level of torture talk has gone from
"Torture: Bad!" to
"Torture: Bad, But Not As Bad As Saddam Hussein" to
"Torture: Bad, But What About Ticking Bombs?" to
"Torture: Bad, But Not Necessarily Proof That The People Who Ordered Torture Are Bad" to
"Torture: We Still Talkin Bout Torture?" to
"Torture: Bad?"

An before we get to
"Torture: Sorta Like Mowin Your Lawn"
I think we should try as hard as we can to wake up.



At 8:55 PM, September 28, 2006, Blogger Gary Farber said...

I really miss [deleted (names)].

At 12:44 PM, September 29, 2006, Blogger Thomas Nephew said...

Me, too -- Fafblog is/was brilliant. Any idea what's up with him/her? Other than run of the mill early 21st century American blues, that is?

And thanks for re-running this, Nell.

At 2:04 AM, October 02, 2006, Blogger eRobin said...

Fafblog seems to have all most insightful torture posts. This one, written when Abu Gonzales was confirmed in a walk, is my favorite. From it:

The debate is certainly over for John McCain, Congress's resident expert on torture. Some might call McCain a partisan hypocrite who has cheapened the memory of his five grueling years in a Viet Cong torture camp with a proxy vote for genital electrocution and glowstick rape. But these people entirely miss the point: John McCain's vote wasn't the moral resignation of a partisan hack, but a staunch, no-nonsense advocacy of the administration's torture policy based on his own experience. That is, John McCain has declared that torture is justifiable because his own torture was justifiable.

The Viet Cong, after all, were fighting a new kind of enemy in a new kind of war, and John McCain was that enemy - and an enemy possibly possessing valuable information. Could he know when or where villages or cities were about to be bombed, information that could save hundreds, even thousands of lives? If so, who wouldn't agree to beat him repeatedly, deprive him of sleep, and tie his arms and legs into "stress positions" to find out? Who among us wouldn't torture John McCain to stop a ticking bomb?


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